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    I'm not so certain we should approve the offshore drilling expansion bill, but I do love it when our democracy gets rowdy like this. Yay for voices of dissention! Cheers for those who want their voices to be heard!... even for those with whom we disagree:




    House Dems turn out the lights but GOP keeps talking

    Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and the Democrats adjourned the House, turned off the lights and killed the microphones, but Republicans are still on the floor talking gas prices.

    Minority Leader John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) and other GOP leaders opposed the motion to adjourn the House, arguing that Pelosi's refusal to schedule a vote allowing offshore drilling is hurting the American economy. They have refused to leave the floor after the adjournment motion passed at 11:23 a.m., and they are busy bashing Pelosi and her fellow Democrats for leaving town for the August recess.

    At one point, the lights went off in the House and the microphones were turned off in the chamber, meaning Republicans were talking in the dark. But as Rep. John Shadegg (R-Ariz..) was speaking, the lights went back on and the microphones were turned on shortly afterward.

    But C-SPAN, which has no control over the cameras in the chamber, has stopped broadcasting the House floor, meaning no one was witnessing this except the assembled Republicans, their aides, and one Democrat, Rep. Dennis J. Kucinich (D-Ohio), who has now left.

    Only about a half-dozen Republicans were on the floor when this began, but the crowd has grown to about 20, according to Patrick O'Connor.

    "This is the people's House," said Rep. Thaddeus McCotter (R-Mich.). "This is not Pelosi's politiburo."

    Democratic aides were furious at the GOP stunt, and reporters were kicked out of the Speaker's Lobby, the space next to the House floor where they normally interview lawmakers.

    "You're not covering this, are you?" complained one senior Democratic aide. Another called the Republicans "morons" for staying on the floor.

    Update: The Capitol Police are now trying to kick reporters out of the press gallery above the floor, meaning we can't watch the Republicans anymore. But Minority Whip Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) is now in the gallery talking to reporters, so the cops have held off for a minute. Clearly, Democrats don't want Republicans getting any press for this episode. GOP leaders are trying to find other Republicans to rotate in for Blunt so reporters aren't kicked out.

    Update 2: This message was sent out by Blunt's office:

    "Although this Democrat majority just adjourned for the Democrat 5-week vacation, House Republicans are continuing to fight on the House floor. Although the lights, mics and C-SPAN cameras have been turned off, House Republicans are on the floor speaking to the taxpayers in the gallery who, not surprisingly, agree with Republican energy proposals.

    "All Republicans who are in town are encouraged to come to the House floor."

    Update 3: Democrats just turned out the lights again. Republicans cheered.

    Update 4: Republican leaders just sent out a notice looking for a bullhorn, and leadership aides are trying to corral all the members who are still in town to come speak on the floor and sustain this one-sided debate.

    Also, Republicans can thank Shadegg for turning on the microphones the first time. Apparently, the fiesty Arizona conservative started typing random codes into the chamber's public address system and accidentally typed the correct code, allowing Republicans brief access to the microphone before it was turned off again.

    "I love this," Shadegg told reporters up in the press gallery afterward. "Congress can be so boring. ... This is a kick."
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    Update 5: The scene on the floor is kind of crazy. Normally, members are not allowed to speak directly to the visitor galleries, and visitors are prohibited from cheering. But in this case, the members are walking up and down on the floor during their speeches, standing on chairs. The visitors are cheering loudly. Some members even brought in visitors, who are now sitting on the House floor in the seats normally filled by lawmakers, cheering and clapping. Very funny.

    Democrats faced a choice here: Should they leave the cameras on and let Republicans rip Pelosi & Co. on C-SPAN, or should they leave the cameras off and let the Republicans have their "tantrum," as one Democratic aide characterized it, with the cameras off? So the cameras are off, but Republicans, and the crowd, are clearly enjoying the scene.

    Update 6: Republicans are literally hugging each other on the House floor. Rep. Don Manzullo (R-Ill.), not normally known as a distinguished orator, just gave a rousing speech, accusing Democrats of stifling dissent. He referenced President John Quincy Adams, who returned as a House member after being defeated in his presidential reelection bid. Waving his arms and yelling, Manzullo brought the crowd (including a lot of staffers shipped in by GOP leaders to fill up the place), and he left the floor to hugs from his colleagues. You don't see that up here every day.

    Update 7: Rep Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) just pretended to be a Democrat. He stood on the other side of the chamber and listed all of the GOP bills that the Dems killed.

    He then said, "I am a Democrat, and here is my energy plan" and he held up a picture of an old VW Bug with a sail attached to it. He paraded around the House floor with the sign while the crowd cheered.

    Update 8: It's over.

    Right at the stroke of five Georgia Rep. Tom Price announced that House Republicans were ending their impromptu protest on the floor of the chamber, ending a five-plus hour rebellion with a round of "God Bless America."

    The assembled tourists, aides and members in the chamber gave Price and his compatriots a standing ovation. They left the chamber to shouts of "USA! USA! USA!"

    Dems turn out the lights but GOP won't go home Part II

    Here are the latest updates on the continuing GOP protest on the House floor:

    The House adjourned about three hours ago, but GOP lawmakers — outraged that Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and the Democrats went home for five weeks without allowing a vote on offshore drilling — have refused to leave the floor. Even though C-SPAN can't show you what's going on (C-SPAN is prevented from showing what's happening on the floor when the House is out of session), Republicans are holding an unprecedented session on the House floor. They have brought in dozens of their members, who are walking up and down the aisles making speeches. They have packed the floors and galleries with staffers. When Capitol Police tried to remove reporters from the gallery, Republicans stopped it from happening. The crowd has repeatedly broken out in chants of "Vote, vote, vote!" There are several dozen Cub Scouts sitting on the House floor in seats normally occupied by members.

    Update: A GOP staffer just informed me that post-adjournment protests by the minority party are not unprecedented. The Democrats did it back in 1995, when the Republicans were in control. Democrats placed a big photo in the speaker's chair of then-Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) wearing a diaper. Republicans note they are being more respectful this time.

    Rep. Kevin Brady (R-Texas), who was on a plane headed home, went back to the Capitol, walking on to the floor dragging his luggage. He got a standing ovation.

    Rep. John Shadegg (R-Ariz.) called it a "new Boston Tea Party!"

    Rep. Mike Pence (R-Ind.) said he was "not leaving until we call this Congress back into session and vote for energy independence."

    Rep. Tom Cole (Okla.), chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee, said the dimly lit chamber is a "vision of the future by the Democrat Party: The lights are out, there's no power, and the air conditioning is gonna go off soon."

    GOP talkathon Part III: No shirt? No tie? No problem

    Michigan Republican Mike Rogers returned to the House floor in shorts and sandals to take his turn at the podium, as the Republican talkathon continues on the House floor, hours after the chamber formally recessed for the week.

    Looking like he was ready for the links in a pair of cargo shorts and a short-sleeve shirt, Rogers said he was preparing to drive back to Michigan when he pulled a U-turn and headed back into town.

    "I had gotten in my car to drive home and I realized I didn't have enough money to pay for the first tank of gas," said Rogers.

    Republican Rep. Rob Bishop of Utah was also spotted on the House floor in shorts and sandals.

    Rep. Kevin Brady returned to thunderous applause when it was announced he had gotten off of a plane right before takeoff in order to deliver a speech. He said the day had turned things completely upside down.

    "Normally they clap when I am leaving here with my bags packed," he said with a laugh. "Not the other way around."

    As of 3:30, the speeches continued, with no sign of letting up.

    GOP Talkathon Part IV: Come on Down

    With the public viewing galleries shutting down for the night, Rep. Kevin Brady has just invited everyone down to the House floor to keep the protest going.

    It has been quite the scene on the House floor this afternoon, as GOP staff members have kept the chamber filled with an eclectic assortment of people.

    Boy Scouts, members of the German army, stray tourists and even members in shorts and t-shirts have all been spotted on the floor at different times.

    While Democrats have privately decried the breakdown in order, Republicans defended the protest.

    "You are not witnessing a revolt," said Rep. Mike Pence. "You are witnessing democracy in action."

    Rep. Donald Manzullo also delivered a passionate speech, saying today was his late father's birthday.

    After relating how his father, an Italian immigrant, came to live in Illinois and own a little grocery store, Manzullo brought the crowd to its feet with this line: "The people of this country are rising up and saying, 'We want our country back!'"
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    This is awesome! Is there something in the water lately? I love it.
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    Ah yes, the rare GOP protest, you only see one of these about every 8 years or so....
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    and this goes out to all my sexeh rebellious Republican compatriots!



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    I'm calling it now...

    Mike Pence for President in 2012 regardless of who wins this time around!
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    They are just trying to hang the gas prices on the Dems. But most people are probably stupid enough to not realize it is just posturing. Never mind the fact that oil companies aren't utilizing their existing leases, and that there aren't drilling ships to be found for at least 6 years. Never mind that they have had a Republican president, who had a majority of Republicans in congress during the drilling ban, but they never thought it was important to lift the executive ban, nor the congressional ban on drilling in those areas. Sure, that's the Dems fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheesewz View Post
    But most people are probably stupid enough to not realize it is just posturing.
    Did you catch the bit near the end about boyscouts, German soldiers, lost tourists, and members showing up on the House floor in shorts & flipflops with their airline luggage in hand? Hey man, it's a circus right now, all they need are dancing bears and an elephant. If this is posturing, then brother man, bring the revolution sez I, we need more interactive government like this.

    Republicans should do more sit-ins, chanting, and hugging.
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    I think it's great. They are wide awake. For a while, I thought they were all Weekend at Bernie's for a few years, like Pope John Paul II was for about two decades before they decided to prop up a new one. This is shorts, sandals, lights out, hacking the PA system, and people rising up, man! Right on.


    And HUGGING, motherfuckers! Republicans HUGGING. This is awesome.

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    Republicans should do more sit-ins, chanting, and hugging.
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    This is all I can think of when someone says Republicans and group hug in the same sentence.

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    Hey, man, those negative waves are interfering my positive vibes... if Republicans want to have a real, honest commune with the people, why not share the groove existing in the present, instead of living in the past? High gas prices are hitting middle and low income families pretty hard right now. Maybe offshore drilling isn't the answer, but we should at least demand that our govt have a debate on the issue and any alternatives instead of shutting down, turning off the cameras and mics, and going on vacation for a month.
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    The GOP rebels have a point here. Why should the Congress go on a paid vacation (paid by US nontheless) while leaving business behind that affects all of us (like it or not)? What is Pelosi afraid of happening if she allows a vote to occur?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mudcat View Post
    Hey, man, those negative waves are interfering my positive vibes... if Republicans want to have a real, honest commune with the people, why not share the groove existing in the present, instead of living in the past? High gas prices are hitting middle and low income families pretty hard right now. Maybe offshore drilling isn't the answer, but we should at least demand that our govt have a debate on the issue and any alternatives instead of shutting down, turning off the cameras and mics, and going on vacation for a month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IU2002 View Post
    The GOP rebels have a point here. Why should the Congress go on a paid vacation (paid by US nontheless) while leaving business behind that affects all of us (like it or not)? What is Pelosi afraid of happening if she allows a vote to occur?
    Umm, because they do that every year and so does the president? There is always legislation that gets left behind for their entirely too long and undeserved vacation. Why should this year be any different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheesewz View Post
    Why should this year be any different.
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    How is this different than the pres and congress taking vacations during war time? Let's say they stayed behind and passed the compromise that's on the table. Would there be immediate relief at the pump? I highly doubt it. This whole flap about vacation is a shitty election year partisan poke. No matter which party is in control, congress goes on vacation and leaves things on the table that need to be resolved. This is in addition to having a 2 day work week. When the GOP was in charge, they did exactly the same thing.

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    Who fucking cares? What matters is people are getting involved, I may be naive enough to think that they actually stayed there because a good bit of us are disappointed in ALL government. The past doesn't matter, who was in control before doesn't matter. The past should not dictate anything. If it's all for political expediency, who cares? America is getting involved, why the hell is that a bad thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitten View Post
    Who fucking cares? What matters is people are getting involved, I may be naive enough to think that they actually stayed there because a good bit of us are disappointed in ALL government. The past doesn't matter, who was in control before doesn't matter. The past should not dictate anything. If it's all for political expediency, who cares? America is getting involved, why the hell is that a bad thing?
    My response was for IU, and his implication that the Dems are to blame for going on vacation during an energy crisis. The past does matter, because if you criticize someone for doing something, you should acknowledge that others (that happen to be on your side) have done exactly the same thing. They didn't stay there because we are collectively disappointed in government. They stayed there because this is an election year and they are in deep shit with voters at the presidential and congressional level. They are grabbing at whatever they can to hang energy prices on the Dems, and it is total bullshit. Bush Sr signed the executive ban on drilling. Republican presidents and Republican congressional majorities have continued the policy for the better part of 20 years, but it is convenient to forget that if you want to blame the Dems.

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    You get so caught up in the blame game you fail to ever see any good things in life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitten View Post
    You get so caught up in the blame game you fail to ever see any good things in life.
    You continue to miss the point. And adding an ad hominem (and an incorrect one at that) attack doesn't change that. All it does is point out that you don't have a valid argument.

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    wrong. I don't have time to play on the internet all day and try to change your pessimistic point of view. Valid arguement? You seem to be the only person here who has a problem with it. You bitch and moan constantly about the Republican party not being what it used to. Any unity that comes from a NON-OBAMA circle must automatically be bad, cuz that's the wrong kind of change! You wouldn't have anything to be pissed off about anymore omg! Look over your posts in here. I don't think I have ever seen anything even half good come out of your posts. The valid argument is the plain and simple fact that the republican party has gotten off their ass. I really don't give a shit about the reasoning behind it or your but but this and but but that. How can ANY kind of government rallying be an automatic bad thing?

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